not working :(

Hi Boys

OK - trying a provisional cast on to make a hem instead of a ribbed band. (using waste yarn method)

Problem is, when I start to knit the first row, it is like the yarn grows between the needees - after about 50 stiches I have a strand of about an inch long.

Has anone else experienced this?

Any ideas what the F I am doing wrong here :(

thanks men!



CRobertK's picture

I haven't tried this myself but I was just watching a video the other day on YouTube (another favorite place to learn new techniques) about this and the narator even said that your first couple of rows may appear like you describe and this can be normal especially your first few times, but she also said that this "problem" disappears after you have several rows knit and then eventually go back to those live stitches. I don't know if this helps. Maybe check YouTube and see if you're doing it right?

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When I do a provisional cast on, I make the chain, then use the crochet hook to put the first row of working yarn on needle, using the back hump on the chain, after all the stitches are on then just knit away.

TheKnittingMill's picture

Hey Paul! It is a little messy and awkward to knit that first row with the method you used, especially depending on how loosely you casted on. It helps the stability a bit if you use a circular needle as the "waste yarn" instead of using scrap yarn. It's also advantageous because you can literally knit right off the circular in the other direction if you want. My favorite provisional cast on uses a crochet chain. It's MUCH easier and more stable creating a neater cast on. It's super easy! Just take a hook similar in diameter to your knitting needle with a smooth similar weight yarn and chain the amount of cast on stitches that your pattern calls for plus a few extra chains. Then cut the waste yarn leaving a 5-10 cm tail and pull that tail through your last chain. One side of the crochet chain looks like a braid and the other side looks like purl bumps. Using your working yarn and your knitting needle pick up and knit through each of those purl bumps (starting at the starting end of your chain) for as many stitches you need to cast on. When you're ready, you can undo the chain at the end you finished and just pull out the chains link by link sliding the live stitches onto your knitting needle. I'm posting some links to help you out below...hope this helps!


Mnjack's picture

Thanks Millard. I have had a similar problem as Paul"s but just shrugged it off as part of the cast on problem. I will definitely try the ctochet hook next time. Have you ever used a hook just a bit bigger than your knitting needle, so it would be easier to pick up tjhe stitches ? Again thanks for the advice.

TheKnittingMill's picture

I've used a crochet hook up to 2-3 mm larger without a problem for that very reason! As long as you chain loosely those "bums" are quite easy to get your needle through even with a slightly smaller crochet hook.

DavidAtlGA's picture

I found that using the following method gives a nice provisional cast edge on that can easily be picked up while at the same time providing a more controlled cast on edge.

MMario's picture

I just knit a couple rows with waste yarn and then start with the working yarn.

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Joe-in Wyoming's picture

I've come to the point where the crochet chain provisional is the one I use most often. I also do the Japanese crochet cast on for items that I want to make that look the same on all four edges, using chain selvedges up the sides. -- Books, knitting, cats, fountain pens...Life is Good.

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PaulJMC's picture

Thanks men!

Tried the hook last night and it was MUCH easier! thanks for the great tips and advice.

Woo Hoo - the beginning of another project!


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