Pesky knots...

Creating the second sleeve to my current project I came across a knot in my yarn.... you know the kind, at some point in the production process my skein came up short and they had to tie to ends together to complete it. I hate that! First I decided just to ignore it and keep knitting, after all, the knot looked pretty sturdy and who wants to start all over because of a stupid knot, right? But after a few more inches of knitting I couldn't get it out of my head... the knot was right at the purl fold line of my sleeve hem, and I couldn't help thinking that at some point in the future this knot would come undone and ruin the sweater.... so I ripped. Now the sleeve is knot free and I feel much safer...
am I too paranoid? What do you guys do with those manufacturer knots in the skein?


A spit join if there's enough wool in the yarn. Otherwise a Russian join.

stch's picture

I definitely remove the knots, and how the yarn is joined in the knitting process depends on the type of yarn.

ronhuber's picture

I remove the knots as well. They always pop through to the right side.

MMario's picture

Since I knot to join yarns anyway - I just leave them.

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AdrianG's picture

I've never heard of a spit join or a Russian join (OK I'm a beginner) -- can you point me in the direction of some information about these?




scenter's picture

Spit Splicing:

Russian Join:

KnitOneSipTwo's picture

I had the same experience. I had knitted almost an entire sweater vest with 2 knots on the purl side of a stockingnet stich. I felt the knots ruined the smoothness of the fabric and I became paranoid that it would unravel, so I tore it all out and started over (perhaps a little overkill).

Now, I always remove the knots, and if I have plenty of yarn, I go to the end of the row. Otherwise, I join by weaving long ends into the fabric.

eyedoc's picture

For anything really important or with more expensive yarns, I usually rewind the yarn on a ball winder. That way, I can see the entire skein as it's winding and see what's going on with it.

scenter's picture

When I come to one of those pesky knots, I stop knitting about 4" before it, move past it by 4", and start knitting on the other side of it. This gives me an 8" or so loop on the back side of the fabric. When I am done knitting, I snip out the knot and weave in the two ends just like any others. I sometimes have to back up to a place where this won't show (I like to have it in a stockinette or garter section, and ideally at an edge, but that isn't always possible).

Check out Lucy Neatby's DVDs and tips about 'happy stitches' if you want info on weaving in ends in the middle of a row/round (I believe it's on her 'Intarsia Untagled' one, but I'm not certain).

Tallguy's picture

Oh, you would never ever make or leave knots in your knitting!! They will ALWAYS work themselves to the surface, and always right over your left boob -- even if you are knitting socks!

KilgoreTrout's picture

Wow sounds like this is an issue for everyone!! clever idea from scenter! I'll have to try that. I usually avoid the russian join or tying knots... I've started just always leave the ends at the very end of the row... this makes it easier to hide them later, in the seams or along the edge... Knots are lumps and russian join creates a thick patch in the knitting which bugs me... and I just don't have the patience for spit join!
But seriously, everytime I find one of those knots I want to call the manufacturer and swear!!

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grandfatherknits's picture

Yes, much swearing! I just got 3 skeins of hand painted silk and found 2 knots in one and 1 in another. Not happy about that! Fortunately (or not) one was about 4 yards into the skein. Fortunate because I won't have a knot in the middle. Unfortunate because those 4 yards are pretty much a waste.

MichaelJames's picture

I cannot say I've ever given them much thought, truthfully. It really depends on the piece I am making and where the knot appears....often, like Mario, I leave them, or I snip them and proceed like I've started a new skein of yarn. This definately falls under the category, "don't sweat the small stuff" in my humble opinion.