Ethics/etiquette question (and a technical question)

I was writing up the pattern for my tri-colored flecked tweed hat and was planning on posting it to Ravelry, but then a question about ethics and etiquette dawned on me. I was inspired to make this hat by a stitch I found in a stitch book...just a book full of various types of stitches. Although the hat itself was just something I improvised, I'm wondering what ethics and etiquette would dictate is appropriate when writing up (and possibly selling) a pattern that uses a stitch type learned from a book or another similar source. Am I allowed to make and sell or give away a pattern using such a stitch? Does the fact that any one stitch can have a billion different names in a billion different books alleviate the idea of "stitch ownership"? Should I be crediting this book out of legal (or moral) obligation? Or is a pattern inspired by a stitch sole ownership of the individual who created the pattern?

Now, there's also a technical question. It wants me to provide a link to a .pdf. I know of plenty of photo-hosting websites, but where in the world do you host a .pdf file? And if I do decide to sell it, does it only take people there after they purchase it? I'm so confused. I'm about to just say, "Screw it." LOL

By the way...although I liked the name suggestions from some of you, I just decided to simplify the naming of my hat and called it "The Yugidean Hat" LOL So original, right? I used up all my originality on the Floobidy Hat. LOL

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I found a website called www.e-junkie.com that allows you to sell things directly through them, especially downloads. It's $5/month, though. I may need to shore up a few more patterns before I hand over money. I don't know how well patterns would really sell, anyway.

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Raymiew's picture

I won't answer the first part of your question, but I think you can post a pdf on box.net. I don't know how it works if you are selling it or even if it will work if you are giving it away. I just know that's a site I've used to share pdfs with friends before.

YugiDean's picture

Thanks! I'll take a look and see how that will work.

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http://yugidean.etsy.com
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MMario's picture

Yugi - If you post the pattern to Ravelry as an original design, and become a "designer" there, you should be capable of uploading the PDF to to Ravelry and linking it internaly. whoops! Looks like they haven't implemented that for purchase designs yet.

sorry.

WAIT! SEE:

http://www.ravelry.com/wiki/pages/RavelryPatternStore

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YugiDean's picture

Spectacular information. I looked on their site, but I think I kept getting confused by all the verbiage. I think I've got it figured out now, though! LOL

"Men can starve from a lack of self-realization as much as they can from a lack of bread." --Richard Wright

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yugidean
http://yugidean.etsy.com
http://www.myspace.com/joshuapkennedy

"Men can starve from a lack of self-realization as much as they can from a lack of bread." --Richard Wright

http://www.terracubus.com/

MMario's picture

They do tend to be a bit wordy.

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albert's picture

Maybe just a note in your pattern such as "this pattern uses the_ stitch found in the book_ by _".

Veni, vidi, kniti.

Crafty Andy's picture

Visit Crafty Andy's Blog If the stitch is copyrighted that's a different story, but I have not found any stitch that has been copyrighted. You copyright names and copyright techniques and patterns, but a stitch alone in not copyrightable because anyone can do it even without reading the book. Is like copyrighting a wheel. You can copyright the way you make your wheel, but you can not copyright the geometrical form.

YugiDean's picture

That makes a lot of sense. That's kind of what I was thinking, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!!!

"Men can starve from a lack of self-realization as much as they can from a lack of bread." --Richard Wright

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yugidean
http://yugidean.etsy.com
http://www.myspace.com/joshuapkennedy

"Men can starve from a lack of self-realization as much as they can from a lack of bread." --Richard Wright

http://www.terracubus.com/

teejtc's picture

Andy is right. Copyrights cover a particular "set form" of something - So, the particular rendering (pictures, directions, etc.) of a stitch in a particular book or website or CD can be copyrighted, but the process of making it cannot. (For the record, in the US, they are legally copyrighted upon being set in a particular form even if they are not marked as copyrighted.)

Theoretically, a process or a form can be patented but patents are very expensive and seldom (if ever) sought for basic-level craft processes like stitches.

Hope that helps.

Grace and peace,
`tim

mwkbloom's picture

You should also check out www.theknittingvault.com. I've bought some nice patterns there.